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August 21st, 2001

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09:55 am - Yaoi/Yuri and the Straight Guy
[Slight clarification/edit: This isn't meant to be about whether a person reads yaoi/yuri. its about how a person who does is percieved. I do read some yaoi/yuri though the selection is not much and don't even mention the goshdamn pilots to me. heh]


was wandering around the web today and i had a realization.

Well sorta more like an observation.

Now this deals with stereo types mind you.

If someone mentions readers of yaoi to me. Two groups spring to mind.

1. Straight females.
2. Gay men.
(Bi's can go anyway. I'm not dealing with being pc about choices.)

Gay men make sense since that is what the story is generally focusing on.

I've heard the facination of straight females with yaoi explained as 2 factors

1. Twice the number of generally attractive men.
2. No female partner to be jealous of.

I'm not so sure which is why it still puzzles me.

But here's where things make even less sense.

Yuri. The lesbian to Yaoi's ummm gay?

Both of theese genre's now have a convention specifically devoted to them

Yaoi - Yaoi-Con

Yuri - AniLesboCon

Whien i came accross the AniLesboCOn site they were selling shirts with the following quote

"For real women who like their women ... animated"

Now while yes it is only a t-shirt.

I've met with some fans of the more fanatical nature before

BTW No one on my friends list is what i consider fanatical which generally requires you to be forcing beliefs on another.

I'm just curious as what the demographics of the two conventions will be.

I'm sure Yaoi-con will be a fairly even mix between the two groups since its in San Diego and there is supposidly a large amount of gay communities in cali.

Here's the statistic i'd be interested in.

Ignore everyone who lives say 50-100 miles from the con.

look at the ratio of females to males in the remaining. I'd be willing to say it would be something like 2 or 3 women for each man.

However I doubt it would be that escewed? for AniLesboCon.

Eliminate the 100 miles then compare. How many men would be there? I severly doubt that it would be 2-3 men for woman.

I'm just rambling now probably cause i slept on a couch last night.

But ask yourself theese questions.

What pre-conceptions would you have when....

You see a man walk into Yaoi-con?

A woman walk into Yaoi-con?

A man walk into AniLesbocon?

A woman walk into AniLesbocon?

Everyone has pre-conceptions so i wouldn't buy "I don't judge books by covers".

I am open and free going person but i still have pre-conceptions. being open minded simply allows you to move PAST the pre-conceptions.

The only other thing would be to consider the climate inside the con.

Would a gay/straight man/woman feel as comfortable in the con as another of the 4 combinations given that they both enjoy Yaoi/Yuri?

This has been deep thoughts brought to you by sleep dep.
Current Mood: curiouscurious

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Date:September 5th, 2001 02:32 pm (UTC)

Re: Con/anime shit


Yeah right.

More like expected.

Btw thoose questions were somewhat rehtorical.

Your percentages are going to be screwed no matter what you do since there has been no otaku census.


Date:September 6th, 2001 08:08 am (UTC)

Re: Con/anime shit

>Yeah right.
>More like expected.

Dave, Dave. You know me too well.

>Btw thoose questions were somewhat rehtorical.

I felt left out after the long posting list. I also felt this strange need to comment on your journal, and as I'm not into all the wierd stuff and people you posted about, this was one of the few things I could say something about.

>Your percentages are going to be screwed no >matter what you do since there has been no otaku >census.

Thus the unedumacated guestimation. That census might be something interesting to look into though. From my own experiences, the percentages of certain minority groups appear to be higher at caons and in the anime community. How high though? And why? I assume the openness of the anime community to be the main reason, but maybe there are other reasons. A census will probably never happen though. What are they going to do, put questionares on the sign in sheets? And a lot of people would just check the "none of your damn buisness" box. But hey, it's a market. AniLesbo Con proves that. If someone could find out this info, there's money to be made.

BTW. My VCR ate your D4 Princess tape.

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